It is unnatural. I sincerely hope that you are not into law, because God help us if you are!!! How about the fact that she never refers to Tayler as her daughter!! Check that one out too. I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. Charles Cain. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. She never returned to the church. But of course, the current anti-Scientology narrative used by haters and by uninformed individuals to help their OWN personal agendas, disseminate a false perception brought about by the Media show. Case in point, the DeCrescenzo lawsuit brought forced abortions to the forefront, the reaction from the church no more abortions (so Im told). Auditing is just counseling. This isnt to be interpreted as meaning that there are no LRHs policies that by themselves, unadulterated in any way, are destructive enough so as to make it a necessity to just get rid of them; we have just too many of those. They were robotically and literally interpreting these EPs and confusing them with the Purpose Section of each Objective process. Marjorie was the Owner/Operator of Asheville Pool & Patio for over 20 years, dedicating 50 years of service to the company. Yeah, we all know the answer to that question I think. Any professional therapists SHOULD also seek legal protection, and there isnt anything immoral about that. This video only strengthens the anti-scientology/cult dialogue, as it is cold, calculated, and defensive. Part of the questionnaire, included questions to locate what was called Illegal PCs as per the ILLEGAL PCS, ACCEPTANCE OF HIGH CRIME BULLETIN PL. I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. Shar, did you even took the time to read my looong post at this thread?? Leah and Mike are human beings, Not omniscient enlightened perfect masters with IQs of 6000. I was actually picturing Paul Haggis when I typed Alex Gibney. Ratings. And if the narrative of the program was not, Scientology need to be stopped and destroyed which IS the one theyve been using even if not in those words but instead a plea for reformation for the greater good, we might have gotten somewhere in terms of reformation. But, no one who watches a documentary, should walk away and think they know everything about the subject matter. Now she is defending the cult. May 23, 2021 This is Taylor Tweed's mother and brother speaking out about how they feel about Taylor's suicide being featured on A&E's Scientology and the Aftermath. A Scientologist heading for suicide - the missing Tayler Tweed Facebook postings - 2016-04-28 Historic Notices 0. Most people, unless there was some kind of religious or ideological vengeance they wanted to exact, would never do such a thing to someone like that. He is somewhat psychotic, actually, you know, a little like LRH himself got. It was me the one who usually wrote the Program for such a handling, and very detailed notes of progress were kept. (Collins) Passed away on the 14/01/2023 and will be sadly missed by her whole. Even to go so far to say (paraphrase), If the body is sick, force it to dig a ditch. Humans CAN change if only we love them hard enough so as to be able to overcome our own bias (I have a TON myself, haha), lack of sensitiveness and compassion, and our desires for punishment and revenge. It is called, POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY AND SOURCES OF TROUBLE written on 27 Oct 1964 : Any process labeled healing, old or new, refers to healing by mental and spiritual means and should therefore be looked upon as the relief of difficulties arising from mental and spiritual causes., The proper procedure in being requested to heal some complained-of physical disability is as follows:, 1. She was despondent about being alone for the holidays. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. You seem to be on the fence. But did L. Ronald Hubbard intend it that way? We last spoke a couple days before her suicide, and she was excited about starting classes at the Art Institute in Audio Production, but still very much depressed and in a volatile state of mind. We let them do courses, but not to get processed, until some evidence of case stability was evident. Can they reform? Are you even going to be aware of what you are saying at that time? But first of all, what is meant by mentally ill? I dont know where this idea that Scnists dont believe in doctors came from (Leah? His posts at his blog dont mention ANYTHING about reformation, nor he uses a narrative leading to ask the church officials to please stop using the destructive policies, to come to senses regarding attacking the dissenters and critics, etc. This is what we need, being fair and balanced, and showing both sides of the coin while remaining compassionate to all sides. Well, do all mothers make some mistakes? The family does not address the story in a believeable way. You do know that Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed about being at peace with it during a phone call he made to her on the day of Taylers funeral, right?. When most anti-Scientologists refer to The church is doing this or that, and so on, or The church is Fair Gaming this or that one, they fail to recognize that they are ACTUALLY referring to ONE single individual whose orders are being robotically followed. This is EXACTLY why the anti-Scientology narrative is so DANGEROUS; because it can turn good people into Fair Gamers themselves, totally neglecting the Human and civil Rights of those whose belief system they disagree with. Im truly amazed at how much the descriptions of their students barriers to awakening sound like a description of the reactive mind! Thats why I left staff even though I continued being a Scientologist. It is even doubtful if full healing can be accomplished by medical treatment alone and it is certain that an assist greatly speeds recovery. The tax exemption could be either revoked or revised, and a fair payment plan could be allowed for any past payments required as a result of such a revocation or revision. Janice Ann Taylor, 79, of Bowmansville, passed away on Saturday, February 25, 2023, in her home surrounded by her loving family. Born January 15th 1928 in County Donegal and died peacefully on January. How could a mother, just three days after her daughter's death, state that she's "at peace" with it?? They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions., TOTALLY in agreement with that! And they are all good friends, as far as I know. Did you read those letters and watched those videos as well so as to have a more balanced viewpoint on the scenario? Why do you think that Cathy Tweed is not human, just like you? I do distinctly remember being told I needed another check up and I was not happy about it. Cmon open your bloggers eyes. Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? He was born in Wilton, North Dakota. Theyre telling peoples stories. Mrs. Davis was born October 10, 1943 in Madison County to the late Fred and Lillian Gosnell Tweed. But their manipulation does not extend to this blog. This is what I call being fair to all sides!! In my OWN organization a VERY small class V org I was sent to go see a medical doctor to get lab tests and get treated in anything found before being let to start a Life Repair program. I do feel, from being a member for 30 years, that my compassion and humanity was eroded.. And its ridiculous to expect the church to reform along these lines. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. Shes shining a light on some very horrific things. Dj Sumbody Obituary, What was Dj Sumbody Cause of Death? Need help? Ok, got it, and I am sorry for the long comm lag in replying. Jimmy Carl Richardson. Thats what I call being able to see truth for what it is. Yet the chiros survived for the simple reason they did help people, often much better than doctors. If someone told me I was joining a church I would have run for the door. Leave a sympathy message to the family in the guestbook on this memorial page of Mary Marguerite Taylor to show support. Seems so sad that people may be sharing her tragedy for personal gain. Harry James Tweed, 65, was a life-long resident of Cape May County, moving to Cape May at the age of seven months, to Rio Grande in 1959, and later to Middle Township. It isnt true that Scn doesnt believe in doctors. Please dont tell me that you have seen one half of a segment of one episode of Leah Reminis show, which repeated an article written by Tony Ortega while adding NOTHING new to it, and you think you have enough knowledge here to say Taylor was never shown any kindness. They either didnt fight back, or just willingly accepted what was happening to them. On Friday, January 10, Tayler Tweed killed herself with a gunshot to the head. Ive met Mike and like him just fine though he DID try to get in my way back when he was still in and I was starting to wake up. Then, sooner or later, they might actually listen. I am just curious, I am not challenging you. Marvin Ernest Seibold, age 92, of Hendersonville, North Carolina, passed away on Friday, February 10th, 2023, comfortably in his home, with his wife of over 71 years, Helen. Larry Hale. Lauren detailed her friendship with fellow second-generation Scientologist Tayler Tweed, whom she met as a teen fresh out of the Sea Org. Mr. Ricky Dale Tweed, age 54, Telford, passed away Wednesday, August 13, 2014 from injuries sustained in an automobile accident. But if my honest attempts at correcting anyone doesnt yield good results and sensible reformations, them I am obliged to act according for the greater good. Would Scientology allow Tayler to see a psychiatrist accredited by the American Psychiatric Association? Guest12, the church (as you called it, which irrelevant to the point under discussion), DID made attempts to prove them wrong by sending the executives of A&E letters of protests, and by specific videos done by the family members (who are still in the church) of those individuals being talked about in the show. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor. I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. I already posted earlier about knowing Tayler and how she 100% wanted to leave the cult. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. Do you know that something called Critical Thinking exists? New Chandigarh Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today New Chandigarh Record Chart 2023, New Agra Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today New Agra Record Chart 2023, Dhan Ratan Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Dhan Ratan Record Chart 2023, Madhur Shree Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Madhur Shree Satta Record Chart 2023, Delhi State Satta Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Delhi State Satta Record Chart 2023. But I cant help but wonder if she would stil be here if her family was willing to look beyond the blinders of their belief and get her some actual mental health treatment. Autor do post Por ; Data de publicao ruschell boone family; legacy obituaries huntsville, alabama em mick taylor that pedal show wife em mick taylor that pedal show wife I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore. This is TV were talking about. Why is that? No, he DIDNT; read the policies on it. "Tayler Tweed's suicide and Aaron Poulin's: Both happened in So. Hypocrisy!! Youre extremely eager to call out Mike and Leah. Nice try, Thetaclear. . Age 92. I dont think so. Im pretty sure this tactic of trying to put you in Cathy Tweeds shoes is not getting through to you. They are not really interested in reform and correct justice. This has to be one of the most horrific videos I have seen posted by a parent in response to a suicide awareness video. I realize there are many sides to documentaries, but if all the stuff Leah and Mike say are false, why isnt the church proving them wrong?. Dont you know that I like to feel certain about things? 1945 - 2023. Most abuses in Scientology happened (with the exception of children who of course, have not enough will power) because people AGREED to being abused. Second guessing a mother who has lost a daughter to suicide like this is pretty cruel, dont you think? Perhaps I need MEDICATION, I must be going crazy or something, because, I mean, this is just me and a very few others who think like this. There have been manslaughter convictions of Christian Scientists and others who kept their own children from the medical care they needed and ended up in prison. I WAS THERE. I do feel, from being a member for 30 years, that my compassion and humanity was eroded. But okay. And that includes posting it again, a year later, for a licensed therapist to psycho-analyze you using that quote of yours that you told to Tony on the day of your daughters funeral. In your blog post, you write There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you, yet I see no actual proof of any information, only anecdotal accounts of how they tried to help her. Fair enough? My own experience had mostly been as a Mission staff that then became a small org. None of which appeared in scientology and the aftermath or in Tony Ortega s earlier reporting. Lila will be intered beside her husband Dan, at St. Carthagh's Cemetery, Tweed, on Saturday, November 20 at 1 PM CASSIBO: Agnes Theresa, at Belmont Long Term Care, Belleville, on October 15, 2021. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. Why do you think its Cathy Tweeds duty to prostrate herself before you? Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. The Horror! Sure. He doesnt take responsibility for the fact that it was HIM the one who got them into Scn in the first place, but now he just think of them as brainwashed, mind controlled, imprisoned, and having no free will to decide on their own. I know that you think you are making the world a better place by coming on to a blog and expressing your disgust and hatred for a mother who lost her daughter to suicide, but youre really not. But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. He was the oldest living past master of. But you strawmanned the topic perfectly, refusing to answer. Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards age 52 of 1098 Teakwood Drive, Greenville, NC died Sunday February 26, 2023. Now, a Scnist may not hold a medical doctor in the same regard as a non-Scnist, but that does not mean they do not utilize their services. The Horror! Sorry; I got carried away. Mike is not sticking to a narrative like the narrative that most people who wanted the Catholic Church to stop child abuse stuck with that only focus on specific abuses, and on very specific and irrefutable evidence while leaving alone the religious aspects; but they are sticking to a narrative sort of : The church is an evil entity who doesnt believe in medicine, whose members never go see a medical doctor, and who are so brainwashed that they feel no loss when they lose their kids through Disconnection or death, and blah, blah. Its the fact that they threw her out that gets me.. Since thats the post youre commenting on? ), but its simply not true. One keeps building on the wisdom because ones data in the world of duality keeps increasing, while at the same time ones ability to connect with the divine (non-duality) also increases. Doh! Now that Ive checked, my memory was incorrect. Yes that jogs my memory. Kaiser Earl Lynch. Looking for Tayler Tweed? I am a long time friend of Taylers and have been in touch with her over the last several months. She has no responsibility over the content of the episode she was in. Not that much if compared with the expected scenario. Obituary Marjorie Tweed Davis, 77, of Black Mountain, passed away Thursday, November 12, 2020. Tony? You guys are cowards and pieces of shit for having her ceremony at Celebrity Center. Curtis was free-spirited and enjoyed music, guitars, and hanging out with his closest friends. She was 27. And that would be one way of reforming the abuses in Scientology, and making Scientology technology safer for Scientologists. Certainly, the church needs to be more compassionate in general, especially with their existing public. No real mother would ever be truly at peace with a child blowing their head off. So, they have this idea, that if they publically expose the churchs harmful practice, and rub their nose in it, that the church will reform and cease such actions. But shes a Scientologist, so what do we care about that, right? Granted that is probably due to legal reasons. Just like Brock, I think you just hate Scientology and Scientologists, and you want to tear one down, and Cathy Tweed seems like the perfect person for you to victimize. In fact, the year after may still be the same day. Find death notices, funeral notices, obituaries and legal/probate notices in Australian newspapers. I must confess that I sort of dont have a definite position on that yet, as I must first analyze all sorts of good arguments such as yours. I mean, just today Mike posted something basically mocking all those Scientologists who at least are trying to help at the disaster at Texas. `Anyone who knowingly follows a man like Hubbard deserves exactly what they get. It does appear the mother attempt to coordinate care for her daughter at some level. I am tired the shit of you guys. But maybe others didnt know the true story of how Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed. Bristol, VA -Leo Tignor Tweed, age 81, passed on Wednesday, April 6, 2022, in Oakmont at Gordon Park. How convenient!!! So lets look at this. You do know that the nazis invaded countries and built concentration camps, right? My step-Mom asked me last week if it was true that Scientology doesnt allow its members to use medical doctors. Why would you want to contribute to Cathy Tweeds own inner hell? But if we are going to blame and criticize Scientologists for this, then I am afraid, that we would have to do the same with MILLIONS of Americans, to not mention the other millions from other countries. The first time was to get a physical and full check up before the Purif. Did Cathy make some mistakes as a mother? Dont get me wrong, the medical field produces a lot of miracles and Im not down on them in general. Now, it should be clear enough what LRH thought about taking care of an Ill body by BOTH using the proper medical treatment and Assists which could be thought as the religious aspect of it AS EXPECTED from any religion. I beg to differ, Statpush, and I am not trying to influence your opinion here. Also, the Rachel Berenstein commentary on the mothers comments > dismissive hearsay. So there are these areas such as child labor and blocking access to medical care where I believe critics can legitimately point out criminality by scientology and try to get the government to act. Of course he knows. . As far as journalism goes you getting all sides of the story Leah and Mike suck. Thats okay they are both academy award winning bald guys! Why do you think that Cathy Tweed would not second guess herself every single day? Yeah, Dave Luck, thats a very sad truth indeed! These are areas of legal vulnerability for scientology and I think they are areas where they need to reform. Yes. Certainly, any raw public exhibiting Type III behaviour would be refused service. With your response here, I really have a hard believing you know anything about suicide at all. Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. Read Today's Notices. I dont necessarily doubt that a person can benefit from medical treatment for brain illnesses. Mr. Tweed was born in Greeneville, TN and son of James W. "Buddy" & Nora O. But no cult has the right to break the law. Perhaps not along these lines, no, but perhaps we can teach them to recover the compassion that was once part of the Scientology world on a long gone past, so they can AT LEAST be able to offer sensible recommendations, and referrals to responsible psychotherapists who dont use primitive methods of healing and dangerous drugs to help their patients. Otherwise, you can forget about getting audited. I also have know Freezoners who took psychiatric meds. Currently, Tayler Woolston's death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tayler Woolston Obituary and want to get a real update. I mean, how hypocritical can one get? Another one of my increasing senior moments Im afraid. And it is that which makes it unfair; not their desires to expose the abuses themselves. Of course is the same! After a well fought battle with brain cancer, Sarah and Augustus made their journey to heaven on June 11, 2015. They told this story. Born in Panama, he came to the United States in 1984 after earning his medical degree in Brazil at Universidade Federal de Santa Maria, and completed his residency in internal medicine through a. Absolutely. But in my opinion, most of these abuses are not based on sensible uses of the existing Scn policies, but in misinterpretation of them, or using them in fundamentalistic ways without proper discernment and good judgement. Are we that naive so as to negate that her Fight against the abuses HAS been very helpful for her career? He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. In my opinion, the best way to handle this is not by trying to demonstrate who is stronger or more badass, which is the current narrative of BOTH, the church and the anti-Scientology movement. View all 146,994 burial records for Mountain View Cemetery, Surnames T, in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, for British Columbia Genealogy Research, compiled by Vancouver Genealogy Volunteers Of course, we were mostly trying to avoid future lawsuits and PR flaps. Please, be so kind to exactly quote or present the exact time tap(s) in that 2nd episode of The Aftermath where ANY ACTUAL evidence was presented as to Taylers mother Cathy Tweed having thrown out her daughter or disconnected from her. Sorry, but thats evaluative and rude. Or you just like the anti-Scientology narrative? Only a fucking Scientologist who believes they've had millions of daughters and families throughout the last 75 trillion years would be just fucking fine with losing "one lost soul" amongst the many you've had. But my first impulse and action, is to try to reform and rehabilitate the individual. Gross Tweed, Telford. Anyway, my comment above had to do with the notion that the church does not treat the mentally ill. This seems to me like an ASC false datum that fits their agenda and theyve convinced others that its true so now its an everybody know, like so many of their assertions. Instead, they consume information from what they consider trusted sources (Leah, Mike, Tony O, etc), which aligns with their own convictions and emotions. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public. Search. For Christs sakes, what is Thursday Funnies and Regraded Being about If not about mocking the church? I bet the if were the case of your own deceased daughter being shown in national TV while making you guilty, you would then think and speak differently. I wonder what the anti-Scientology camp Science Officer would have to say about this, , Excuse my manners, Alanzo! Youve just attended the funeral of your own daughter who committed suicide and a journalist calls you up to talk to you about it. Why are you working so hard to defend her? However, we assure you that we will add the factual details once they are available. We love you, Tayler. They Mike Rinder and her decided on a specific narrative beforehand, and they are fishing for stories that fits and support that narrative. Does that sound familiar to anyone was in? I am not anti ANYTHING, but I have my own mind about things without having to follow any sheeple or any narratives, . For his hat or role as a psychotherapist he is expected to be trained and properly licensed. I am doing this willingly. Tyler Tweed Death - Tyler Tweed, a graduate of Wisconsin's Marshall High School, passed away, and his family and friends have resorted to social media to express their sorrow at his passing. Until auditors are licensed, I do not think they should have anything to do with the mentally ill. Following the death information, people wonder what was Tyler Tweed cause of death. My God, and you dare criticize Scientologists by their alleged lack of compassion? Well, try to go to Flag (the principal Scientology organization) for services and tell them that you are sick, and see what happens. I cant honestly say that I know enough about her to make a fair comment as to her potentials. Most Scnists I know (knew), would initially seek natural treatments (e.g. One is geared towards the discovery of truth, the other is entertainment. Tayler Weldon DeBari November 13, 1986 -. And Im mos def not an anti Scientologist. I think they do just fine but I do not expect them to get everything right. In recent times, Tyler Tweed's death was surfed by many individuals. Hear Cathy Tweeds version of events. Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by RightOn, Jan 20, 2014. Forum software by XenForo 2010-2013 XenForo Ltd. Obituaries. In fact when I was in I was told to go to a medical doctor twice. You see, I feel that we must be very careful with mixing the religious aspect of Scientology with its psychotherapeutic aspect. It is the same with for example, priests who are also trained clinical psychologists, and who besides using the scriptures as a priest to spiritually orient the individuals he/she is trying to help, he also uses the tools of his trade as a trained clinical psychologist (or other type of psychotherapist) to help his parishioner. Ian Taylor, who has died of cancer aged 64, was an international oil trading tycoon who also rescued Harris Tweed and chaired the trustees of the Royal Opera House, of which he was a generous . Tyler is a 2016 graduate of Marshall High School. We are currently puzzled about how Tyler Tweed died. TAYLOR BASS OBITUARY. Thats tough for me to get past. This young woman was crying for help and her mother posted a Facebook message telling people to distance themselves from her. Im pretty sure you would not like that if it was done to you. 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